Comments on: Facebook owns us http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/ Blog of Peter Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:55:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ANNM http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-49 ANNM Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:03:38 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-49 I don't use Facebook, but I can see the appeal. However, using a centralised online system for things like that, with everything that means in terms of technical vulnerability, censorship, and lack of control, is bad. Any Facebook replacement really needs to be distributed, or at least have easy mechanisms for migrating all your data from one server to another. GNU Social looks interesting, as well as building systems on top of XMPP. For the hardcore crypto geek, a distributed, encrypted, content-addressable system like Freenet or GNUnet could be interesting to use as a basis. It would probably be too slow though. I don’t use Facebook, but I can see the appeal.

However, using a centralised online system for things like that, with everything that means in terms of technical vulnerability, censorship, and lack of control, is bad. Any Facebook replacement really needs to be distributed, or at least have easy mechanisms for migrating all your data from one server to another. GNU Social looks interesting, as well as building systems on top of XMPP.

For the hardcore crypto geek, a distributed, encrypted, content-addressable system like Freenet or GNUnet could be interesting to use as a basis. It would probably be too slow though.

]]> By: Johan Andersson http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Johan Andersson Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:38:06 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-48 Leave Facebook if you have an account or more there. I'm not a Facebook user and probably will never be. I use XMPP some you can reach me sometimes at j85@jabber.se Leave Facebook if you have an account or more there. I’m not a Facebook user and probably will never be. I use XMPP some you can reach me sometimes at j85@jabber.se

]]> By: Dave http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Dave Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:47:30 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-47 Its a good hint if you do want to escape from facebook - if you try and do it voluntarily it is extremely hard to get out and they never really delete you. So - put something obscene as a profile picture and they save you the effort! Its a good hint if you do want to escape from facebook – if you try and do it voluntarily it is extremely hard to get out and they never really delete you.

So – put something obscene as a profile picture and they save you the effort!

]]> By: Derek Lackaff http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Derek Lackaff Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:24:43 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-46 In addition to GNU Social mentioned above, there is a recently-launched project called Diaspora (http://joindiaspora.com) that aims to develop an open-source, decentralized, privacy-aware, encrypted social network platform. It sounds great, and they are well on their way to funding a summer of development via a crowdfunding campaign on Kickstarter. I don't know how far they will get, but I'm excited to see some real movement in this area. In addition to GNU Social mentioned above, there is a recently-launched project called Diaspora (http://joindiaspora.com) that aims to develop an open-source, decentralized, privacy-aware, encrypted social network platform. It sounds great, and they are well on their way to funding a summer of development via a crowdfunding campaign on Kickstarter. I don’t know how far they will get, but I’m excited to see some real movement in this area.

]]> By: Johan Bouveng http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Johan Bouveng Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:22:40 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-45 Oh please! Do you offline your friends IRL if they dont appear in your friend list on FB? Come on, FB is not an replacement for IRL, its just an addition. Violate terms, and get kicked out. I dont understand how this can be an issue at all. Censorship is another thing, i fully agree on that one. But the crying story that your friend didnt show up on a party because you use facebook to invite ppl, and he was deleted for having a cock on his profile pic? Allow me to smile. :) Internet is and will always be a playground that hosts the static of the mankind. ps. You can always create your own community using http://elgg.org 's open source community :) Peace man! /J Oh please! Do you offline your friends IRL if they dont appear in your friend list on FB? Come on, FB is not an replacement for IRL, its just an addition. Violate terms, and get kicked out.

I dont understand how this can be an issue at all. Censorship is another thing, i fully agree on that one. But the crying story that your friend didnt show up on a party because you use facebook to invite ppl, and he was deleted for having a cock on his profile pic? Allow me to smile. :)

Internet is and will always be a playground that hosts the static of the mankind.

ps. You can always create your own community using http://elgg.org ‘s open source community :)

Peace man!

/J

]]> By: Natanael L http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Natanael L Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:42:34 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-44 Possible solutions: http://www.foaf-project.org/ http://microformats.org/wiki/xfn And other microformats based systems... Google Wave when you host your own server (the protocol is 100% free, free clients and servers already exist) http://dataportability.org/ - They are working on making it easier to backup and transfer data around the way you want it Possible solutions:

http://www.foaf-project.org/
http://microformats.org/wiki/xfn
And other microformats based systems…

Google Wave when you host your own server (the protocol is 100% free, free clients and servers already exist)

http://dataportability.org/ – They are working on making it easier to backup and transfer data around the way you want it

]]> By: RR http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-43 RR Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:21:23 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-43 Happy to hear this from you... I've been dreaming about a P2P social networking system for years but unable to realise it myself. I recently stumbled upon http://www.peerson.net which seems to be the beginning of this idea... We really need to layer some such network over I2P with lots of encryption and easy way to allow or remove access to your data _yourself_. cheers! Happy to hear this from you… I’ve been dreaming about a P2P social networking system for years but unable to realise it myself. I recently stumbled upon http://www.peerson.net which seems to be the beginning of this idea… We really need to layer some such network over I2P with lots of encryption and easy way to allow or remove access to your data _yourself_.

cheers!

]]> By: Ismael http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Ismael Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:52:38 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-42 People that works with XMPP (former Jabber) is beginning to make specs and even proof of concept code for distributed social networks. At first with microblogging. This kind of project can build a independent and interconnected network . It's important to spread the word about alternatives, and about this kind of monopolistic behaviour. People that works with XMPP (former Jabber) is beginning to make specs and even proof of concept code for distributed social networks.

At first with microblogging.

This kind of project can build a independent and interconnected network .

It’s important to spread the word about alternatives, and about this kind of monopolistic behaviour.

]]> By: openess http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-41 openess Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:12:04 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-41 jag läste en bok en gång där folk försvann på dethär sättet. 1984 hette den ;) varför ser jag inte den uppenbara storebrorsreferensen i kommentarerna än? jag läste en bok en gång där folk försvann på dethär sättet. 1984 hette den ;)

varför ser jag inte den uppenbara storebrorsreferensen i kommentarerna än?

]]> By: Mind http://blog.brokep.com/2010/04/24/facebook-owns-us/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Mind Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:48:32 +0000 http://blog.brokep.com/?p=10#comment-40 First of all, welcome back! I couldn't comment on your last post. And second, I totally agree on Facebook. The thing is, most of us have a bunch of clueless friends, relatives, etc who either doesn't know about the implications of Facebooks rules or doesn't care. Everyone signs up on it only because everyone else is already signed up. We need something new and free, and we need to start building up social momentum so we get a reason for everyone clueless to get of the Facebook bandwagon as well. First of all, welcome back! I couldn’t comment on your last post. And second, I totally agree on Facebook. The thing is, most of us have a bunch of clueless friends, relatives, etc who either doesn’t know about the implications of Facebooks rules or doesn’t care. Everyone signs up on it only because everyone else is already signed up. We need something new and free, and we need to start building up social momentum so we get a reason for everyone clueless to get of the Facebook bandwagon as well.

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