Yesterday I received a copy of the updated list of witnesses that has been called in the upcoming trial (have no link yet, working on it).
The list is quite interesting. The prosecution have called zero witnesses with any technological expertise or even called experts in the field of intellectual property law.
What do John Kennedy (international CEO of IFPI) have to add to a Swedish court case, in a country where he do not even know the laws? Or why is some (more than one) of the CEOs from Bonnier called? The only tech guy on the list? Jim Keyzer, the now infamous cop that worked for Warner Brothers and Universal during his own investigation of the current case.
Our side have stilled not finalized the list of expert witnesses. But our witnesses will actually add competence, based on facts and research, and will correctly interpret the law surrounding this case. We will not have a bunch of uninteresting CEOs that have nothing to add beside their own anger of having to adopt their business to the current media climate – a climate where the people decide, not the high earning CEOs.
It’s a shame the prosecution do not take this case serious enough to actually put facts instead of feelings on the table. But it doesn’t matter. Both our facts and our feelings are honest and in our favour.
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Call one of the guys from the Netherlands who wrote the recent file sharing report?
Hojta till när listan kommer upp =)
Ska bli otroligt intressant, inte listan, utan hela rättegången!
//Kämpa på!!!
Om ni döms för att ha länkat till upphovsrättsligt skyddat material när lagen säger att det inte är illegalt förlorar jag min tro på rättsväsendet.
hade ju varit fantastiskt om det hade varit livestream live i februari. jobba på!
Just read an Ars article about Monty Python giving away videos for free at youtube and making money off it, cause people will buy their stuff anyway. Thought you might want to add it to the arsenal!
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090123-nobody-expects-the-spanish-inquisitionto-make-on-youtube.html
This trial is a setup-on-demand, by order of the CEOs and foreign powers – The US. The prosecution and police is obviously biased in their favor. Let us hope the court itself is strictly objective.
Are they not the same guys who sued AllofMP3.com for $1.65 Trillion?! Could such people be taken seriously at court? Are there any reason to believe anything they say?
Presumably the list of witnesses also includes a brief description of what facts each the testimony should help prove (otherwise the court is not likely to want to hear the witnesses). In the case of e.g. the IFPI guy I assume he will talk about how much money they have lost. Though I don’t quite see the point of that since their figure can easily be submitted in writing.
Witnesses are not very useful in arguments about what the law says etc. I’m not an expert on procedure but I doubt the court would even allow it. Written statements from Jan Rosén & co about how the law should be interpreted are common in civil copyright cases though.
But the lack of technical witnesses is prehaps somewhat surprising.
Federal law would soon require that most telemarketers remove registered Do Not Call phone numbers from their call lists. Universal Laws
They’re suing tPB, obv they can’t be taken seriously!
This is primarily a political trial, do not underestimate the political pressure as well as the political will to come to a verdict that the powers that be can accept.
I can not help to think that you should counter the arguments from those that represent the business models built on the old technology with witnesses that use the new conditions as a basis for their business. Anna Troberg is one such example, I’m certain that there are many others.
I would love to see this streamed online, a la the Joel tenenbaum-trial. Nothing would delight me more than to see the IFPI utterly demolished, live. Keep us updated, this is going to be so much fun
I really hope that you guys come out as winners. It would be horrible if they succeed in this case. It is much larger than just copyright also, your case could shape the future of Sweden in some ways
Good luck! I hope you and the rest of the crew prevails in this court “battle”, or should I say farce. Unfortunately Stefan got a point there, one probably can’t underestimate the political power behind this trial. First Bodström and now the new government in charge.
Totally-OT: It would be really cool if (after they are returned to you, if that ever happens) the confiscated servers/rigs from the raid would be auctioned off. Thus you could rise money even if the hardware is outdated by now.
true! if the case will/would be based on facts the IFPI loose…if
Finally, an English language post!
A bloody good post as well, and I agreed with every word.
Hey, you can be legend after this.
Good luck and thank you.
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If you can, please send the list of CEO’s to me. //Erik
A list of their companies would also do (maybe even better) //Erik
christian diesen och johanna björkman vet en hel del om värdet eller bristen på värdet av dna-bevisning.
jag misstänker att neij inte vill bli fälld för stöld.
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